Comment from: GLEN K. DUNBAR [Visitor] · http://www.metopera.org
Thanks for the brief breakdown of this plan.

I actually like it. Are we sure it is a go now?? All Mr. Obama has to do is sign it? When will he sign it?? Today???

I thought I read there was another yet hurdle or vote needed. I hope that is NOT the case it we will just get her done and in to law.

Glen
03/22/10 @ 11:38
Comment from: GLEN DRANK THE KOOL-AID [Visitor]
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Folks like Glen don't realize that this is communist. People with good healthcare now, will lose it for some gov't run junk plan and pay more taxes for it.Read between the lines and replace the words fees and fines with the REAL word TAXES!In this economy employers are not going to simply take the hit,no pay increases,no new hiring,job loss,stuff rolls downhill,WAKE UP.
03/22/10 @ 12:03
Comment from: Give me a Break [Visitor]
Surprise, surprise tort reform didn't make it into the bill. The lawyers who supported Obama would not have liked that!!!! Is the sweet heart deal for the unions still in ...excemption of their cadillac plans? While the rest of us folks will be taxed.

Ahhh...don't you just love all of this change you can believe in???
03/22/10 @ 12:11
Comment from: Passing Thru [Visitor]
People standing around with their hands out looking for "free" stuff IS the new America. So much for personal responsibility and accountability.
03/22/10 @ 12:20
Comment from: Alice [Visitor]
There are some good reforms here regulating insurance companies, but folks need to understand that because of these reforms, insurance rates will go up. These companies will pass along their increased costs to consumers. They also stand to make quite a bit of money on supplemental insurance, which those on this new healthcare plan will ultimately need in order to pay what won't be covered.

Also, for those who fall into the qualifying category and get vouchers, you DO know that when the governments gets into financial trouble, and they will, that those vouchers will disappear. You will be asked to pay your premiums like those in higher income brackets, the amount taken from your pay will increase drastically and the quality of your healthcare will suffer as doctors leave for greener pastures.

If anybody still thinks this is Utopia, you will have a very rude awakening!
03/22/10 @ 12:30
Comment from: Janie [Visitor]
Still over 70% according to the WTNH question of the day don't believe this plan will benefit them. Those are probably the politicians who voted for it. Well now Obama owns the car companies, the insurance companies and the banks. What's next !! I wish it was "impeachment"!
03/22/10 @ 12:32
Comment from: Cazador [Visitor]
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No one is happy - this is a fair deal.

It will be niether as good as the people who support it hope, nor as bad as the people who disparage it fear.

To "Give me a break" - if a republican were to have offered a vote to include Tort reform, YBYSA it would have been in there.
03/22/10 @ 12:34
Comment from: Able [Visitor]
'Folks like Glen don't realize that this is communist.'

Folks like you are unaware of what Communism is.

'People standing around with their hands out looking for "free" stuff IS the new America.'

People stand and wish to have equality, not something free. The notion that single-payer would be free, which I support, is not true, but we are willing to pay for it in order for everyone to be healthier and have a better nation.
03/22/10 @ 12:35
Comment from: Old Navy Gunner [Visitor]
This "bill" is over 2000 pages long, no one has read it in it's entirety, Wait 'til you find what's hidden in it. Time to WAKE UP AMERICA !!!
03/22/10 @ 12:38
Comment from: Common Sense [Visitor]
Say goodbye to full time jobs with smaller companies. "Companies with 50 or fewer workers are exempt from offering coverage. Part-time workers are included in the calculations, counting two part-timers as one full time worker". If a company now has 100 full-time workers, they will cut hours to 32 per week per employee then hire 25 more part-time thus avoiding offering health care costs while maintaining productivity and labor costs. Oh, and by the way, now these workers who just had their hours reduced are required to have health insurance or pay penalties. If you think things like this won't happen, think again.
03/22/10 @ 12:45
Comment from: Bill [Visitor]
The $450 Billion dollar cut to medicare made it into the bill. Sorry Seniors you have to pay for the people who spend all their money on cell phone, and cable tv rather than health care.
03/22/10 @ 13:07
Comment from: Ordinary Citizen [Visitor]
LOL... Able once again proves he is THE poster boy for why we have Abortion Rights !!!!
03/22/10 @ 13:08
Comment from: Get Real [Visitor]
Page 1152 states something about "Tooth Level Surveillance"... Can ANYBODY tell me what that is about????
Rosa?????
03/22/10 @ 14:37
Comment from: Able [Visitor]
'LOL... Able once again proves he is THE poster boy for why we have Abortion Rights !!!!'

And you again prove why your mother should have swallowed.
03/22/10 @ 14:50
Comment from: Proud Liberal [Visitor] Email
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Many spoiled children around today. It is over. America has spoken. To thoes that say most did not want it I point out "MOST" people voted for Al Gore too. But we ended up with baby bush. So Now is the time to move on. Like it or not ( and I LOVE it )the Health care bill has passed and the rupublicans will go down in history again on the wrong side. You people do have a history of being on the wrong side don't you. Oh well, as I have been saying for three days now, N.E.X.T. Have a nice day folks.
03/22/10 @ 15:27
Comment from: Todd [Visitor]
"And you again prove why your mother should have swallowed."

OMG... *shrug*.

Honestly, leave it to a conservative to throw out a comment that elicits a response such as Able's.

Now we truly know the level of maturity of those within the Tea Party and Conservative movements.

Not one of you can draw a logical or factual argument.

You people on the right really are too funy.

03/22/10 @ 15:32
Comment from: Alice [Visitor]
The liberals fail to understand how very angry we are! I agree it's no excuse to be rude, but we ARE angry! Maybe someday, within the next few years when YOU finally realize what's been done to you, you will all get angry too!

Most of you haven't looked any further into the future than the end of your noses!
03/22/10 @ 16:20
Comment from: Dumped Dodd [Visitor]
Mr. Perfect, I have yet to see anything factual or logical from you other than infantile retorts or personal criticism of others. You who I'm assuming is left isn't "funy" either.
03/22/10 @ 16:25
Comment from: Able [Visitor]
'The liberals fail to understand how very angry we are! I agree it's no excuse to be rude, but we ARE angry! Maybe someday, within the next few years when YOU finally realize what's been done to you, you will all get angry too!'

Those on the left are just as angry as those on the right, for many of the same reasons. Fundamental changes, a paradigm shift if you will, needs to occur. All these issues are not being fixed, it is like opening up a homeless center to cure homelessness.

The majority of individuals realize what has happened. Are there benefits to this bill? Of course. Are there negatives? Huge gaping wounds.

'You who I'm assuming is left isn't "funy" either.'

Me on the other hand, the next Adam Sandler.. except not rooting for Rudi.
03/22/10 @ 16:33
Comment from: NoobVandal [Visitor]
Alice and other conservatives, could you please give us some actual reasons as for why average citizens should be so angry about this bill? Please do your best to make sense.
Thanks, looking forward to your response.
03/22/10 @ 17:28
Comment from: Ordinary Citizen [Visitor]
Todd,

just pasting this from a post I put up on another thread...

You posted that

" This bill does not effect Medicare, but you fail to understand that. "

My question is this...

How does taking 500 million (or was it billion? I forget now) from Medicare funding not effect Medicare??

How about the fact that they are entitling the majority of these much vaunted 30+ million more insured by way of medicaid, yet they are scaling back Medicaid payments to the States over the next 3 years??? How does that NOT translate into higher taxes across the board for all of us?? I'm quite curious about how you have a liberal elitist spin on that little FACT !!

Except the 17 States whose Reps took more Medicaid payments as bribes for their 'yes' votes, of course !!!
03/23/10 @ 04:04
Comment from: Todd [Visitor]
"Except the 17 States whose Reps took more Medicaid payments as bribes for their 'yes' votes, of course !!!"

Cite your source. As last I heard the Nebraska Deal is not part of this bill.

"I'm quite curious about how you have a liberal elitist spin on that little FACT !!"

The same was you republican elitists spin the fact!
03/23/10 @ 08:09
Comment from: Todd [Visitor]
"The liberals fail to understand how very angry we are!"

No we don't Alice. And you fail to understand and respect how angry liberals are with the war in Iraq, torture, and tax cuts for the rich.

"Most of you haven't looked any further into the future than the end of your noses!"

You never did that with the last administration, honey. And, you criticize those who look at how the past had effected the future... facts which you still choose to ignore.

"Alice and other conservatives, could you please give us some actual reasons as for why average citizens should be so angry about this bill? "

She can't, because she, like every other conservative, is angry. They have been angry ever since a democrat became president. They are even angrier that he is black.
03/23/10 @ 08:13
Comment from: chloe shoes [Visitor] · http://www.cheapchloe.com
Yeah. It’s good to be yourself. Same with you, I will try to do something. So I support your decision!
04/11/10 @ 21:18

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