Obama: Uncensored society is healthy
By ConnPolitics.tv Editor on Nov 16, 2009 | In News, President Barack Obama | 22 feedbacks »
By CHARLES HUTZLER
Associated Press Writer
Beijing (AP) – President Barack Obama sat down with the Chinese leader Monday night, hours after he pointedly nudged his host country to stop censoring the Internet access, offering an animated defense of the tool that helped him win the White House – and suggested Beijing need not fear a little criticism.
The president’s message during a town hall-style meeting with university students in Shanghai, China’s commercial hub, focused on one of the trickiest issues separating China’s communist government and the United States – human rights.
In a delicately balanced message, Obama couched his admonitions with words calling for cooperation, heavy with praise and American humility.
“I think that the more freely information flows, the stronger the society becomes, because then citizens of countries around the world can hold their own governments accountable,” Obama told students during his first-ever trip to China. “They can begin to think for themselves.”
The first-term U.S. president and his delegation later arrived at the Diaoyutai State Guesthouse for Obama’s third meeting with Chinese President Hu Jintao, where trade, climate change and economic issues were expected to dominate. The two leaders had dinner in the government complex and were scheduled to meet again Tuesday.
Obama’s message, aside from his proddings on human rights, was clear: few global challenges can be solved unless the world’s only superpower and its rising competitor work together. He and his advisers have insisted in virtually all public utterances since he arrived in Japan on Friday: “We do not seek to contain China’s rise.”
During Obama’s opening statement to university students in Shanghai, he spoke bluntly about the benefits of individual freedoms in a country known for limiting them.
“We do not seek to impose any system of government on any other nation,” Obama said. Then he added that freedom of expression and worship, unfettered access to information and unrestricted political participation are not principles held by the United States; instead, he called them “universal rights.”
The line offered echoes of Obama’s predecessor, George W. Bush, who often talked of the “universality of freedom.” Obama talked at length about the Internet, which he said helped him win the presidency because it allowed for the mobilization of young people like those in his audience in Shanghai.
“I’m a big supporter of non-censorship,” Obama said. “I recognize that different countries have different traditions. I can tell you that in the United States, the fact that we have free Internet – or unrestricted Internet access is a source of strength, and I think should be encouraged.”
Given where Obama was speaking, such a comment carried strong implications. And he appeared to be talking directly to China’s leaders when he said that he believes free discussion, including criticism that he sometimes finds annoying, makes him “a better leader because it forces me to hear opinions that I don’t want to hear.”
China has more than 250 million Internet users and employs some of the world’s tightest controls over what they see. The country is often criticized for having the so-called “Great Firewall of China,” which refers to technology designed to prevent unwanted traffic from entering or leaving a network.
Obama’s town hall was not broadcast live across China on television. It was shown on local Shanghai TV and streamed online on two big national Internet portals, but the quality was choppy and hard to hear.
Obama is in the midst of a weeklong Asia trip. He came with a vast agenda of security, economic and environmental concerns, although always looming was how he would deal with human rights while in China.
His China visit features the only sightseeing of his journey. He will visit the Forbidden City, home of former emperors in Beijing, and the centuries-old Great Wall outside of the city. Aides have learned that finding some tourist time calms and energize their boss amid the grueling schedule of an international trip.
U.S. ambassador Jon Huntsman called Obama’s event the first ever town-hall meeting held by a U.S. president in China. Yet former presidents Bill Clinton and George W. Bush also spoke to students and took questions from them during stops in China.
China is a huge and lucrative market for American goods and services, and yet it has a giant trade surplus with the U.S. that, like a raft of other economic issues, is a bone of contention between the two governments. The two militaries have increased their contacts, but clashes still happen and the United States remains worried about a dramatic buildup in what is already the largest standing army in the world.
Amid all that, Obama has adopted a pragmatic approach that stresses the positive, sometimes earning him criticism for being too soft on Beijing – particularly in the area of human rights abuses and what the United States regards as an undervalued Chinese currency that disadvantages U.S. products.
The two nations are working together more than ever on battling global warming, but they still differ deeply over hard targets for reductions in the greenhouse-gas emissions that cause it. China has supported sterner sanctions to halt North Korea’s nuclear weapons program, but it still balks at getting more aggressive about reining in Iran’s uranium enrichment.
Obama recognizes that a rising China, as the world’s third-largest economy – on its way to becoming the second – and the largest foreign holder of U.S. debt, has shifted the dynamic more toward one of equals. For instance, Chinese questions about how Washington spending policies will affect the already soaring U.S. deficit and the safety of Chinese investments now must be answered by Washington.
The White House hoped Monday’s town hall meeting with Chinese university students would allow Obama to telegraph U.S. values – through its successes and failures – to the widest Chinese audience possible.
But those hopes had their limits in communist-ruled China.
22 comments
I guess it all depends on who is doing the stifling... eh? Lord Obama, our most omnipotent False Prophet, the one who says it is and so it is.....
Somewhere in Kanya, a village is missing it's idiot...
"Dump Dodd"
like you've never made a spelling mistake, huh?
Written words are srtatigic words in an art form to impress or defame.
Actions speak louder than words.
Words are noise.
Action is creativity.
~Peace Glenna~
Obama sure is making a whole lot of cheap noise then......
I'll keep my freedom, my guns and my money.. you can keep 'The Change'
NOW, you seem to understand!!! The problem being that you and others like you elected the guy.
You still don't understand that like Obama, Bush lied and doesn't speak english. He speks some peculiar form of uneducated Texan.
Furthermore, one of the larges problems our country has to face is the choices people like you made. You voted for Bush twice? Are you kidding me? Are you really as dumb as you attempt to make those who voted for Obama to be? Frankly, if I were you, I would be humiliated by the results of my choices.
To a great extent, the American people do not think beyond what they read in the papers or hear on TV. They allow reporters to mold their opinions and they think no further. GW wasn't perfect. But he is a good man and tried to do his best for the US! I firmly believe this.
However, I do not think that Mr. Obama loves America, it's pricipals, or the citizens of this great country! His basic ideas, his philosophy if you will; to spread the wealth of hard working American's around to those that don't, or won't work, is VERY un-American; it goes against everything this country was based on: hard work, responsibility, accountability, profits, etc. FOR THOSE THAT WORK HARD FOR IT!!!!
From a Bill Anderson interview: "It's the neighborly thing to do!" Mr. Obama said.
I totally disagree!
" Now we have a real Commander and Chief. " Are you serious? This clown has NO idea on the what it takes to be a leader... He hides behind his "I'm still making up my mind" on troop level increases. These increases, while not a fun thing for those directly involved, are a necessary provision to give our troops there the protection they need to do the job there.
Anti-war protests embolden the enemy there and cause more troop casualties as the war is escalated and taken to the enemy.
I find it curious that most of those I know who are against the war, never served time in military uniform. They have no idea of the sacrifices made by our service members in time of war and during peace time as well.
The fact that we are able to have an all-volunteer force that is the most highly trained and formidable fighting force in the world is a testament that SOME of the citizens in this country DO understand the concept of the adage "Freedom is NOT free"... and as such are willing to put their money where their mouth is, so to speak.
This cheap thug lawyer from chicago does them (and our country) a dis-service each and every day he is in office.
He is more worried about upsetting his muslim brethren than he is than giving our troops the tools needed to carry out their mission.
The very mission that he tried to undermine as a US Senator.
Its called history? Why do you choose to ignore it?
"Some people can not let go of the past especially when their understanding is so skewed and factually deprived. "
Oh, and your your understand of Obama is not "factually deprived"?
Bush sent troops to the middle east without enough protective equipment, this is a fact.
Boston Globe 2004:
"The president made the decision as to when to send our troops to war, no one else. He decided the date. He decided that diplomacy was over. He decided to go forward. And on the date that they went into Iraq, they didn't have the armament on the Humvees, the armored doors, they didn't have the equipment they needed in some regards, and they didn't have the state-of-the-art body armor,"
U.S. to boost armored Humvee output: Pentagon ups order after soldier's question causes stir, NBC News, December 10, 2004.
"When American troops first took Baghdad, only the U.S. military police had fully armoured vehicles."
Burns, Robert. "Soldiers criticize lack of armour," Associated Press, December 9, 2004.
"Rumsfeld Responds to U.S. Soldier's Grilling: Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld Tries to Quell the Firestorm Over the 'Hillbilly Armor' Issue," ABC News, December 9, 2004.
"The practice of U.S. troops reinforcing their vehicles with improvised armour became well known after a U.S. soldier questioned U.S. Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld about the need to salvage armour from scrap materials on December 8, 2004 at Camp Buehring, Kuwait."
So, Ordinary Citizen, apparently Bush wasn't too worried about equiping our troops either...
No war equipment is ever the perfect answer..... Obviously you never saw any pictures from wars that we were previously engaged in. The pictures of Sherman M4 tanks with sandbags and bedsprings piled onto them as added protection. American service members are very ingenious and readily able to adapt most anything to their environment. Did send them to war with less than perfect equipment? yes he did.
The humvee isn't supposed to be a tank.... it replaced the jeep after all. Have you ever seen an armored jeep?
The situation now in Afghanistan is not a matter of materiel, it's a matter of not enough troops to get the job done.
Obama's delay is going to get more troops killed, just like Rumsfeld's insisting that we didn't need more troops in Iraq in 2004 did... It took way to long for the troop increase there as well....
So like I said, Obama is not a leader by any stretch of the imagination...
"Did send them to war with less than perfect equipment? yes he did. "
Should have read "Did Bush send them to war with less than perfect equipment? yes he did."
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