Dodd v. Lieberman in health care debate
By ConnPolitics.tv Staff on Nov 9, 2009 | In News, Sen. Chris Dodd (D), Sen. Joe Lieberman (I) | 22 feedbacks »
Hartford (WTNH) – The national health care debate now moves to the floor of the U.S. Senate where Connecticut’s two senators stand at the national divide.
The showdown will place the two old friends at the center of the battle over the public option for health insurance.
Senator Chris Dodd has devoted most of this year to helping President Obama bring a national health care reform bill to reality; a pledge to his dying friend Senator Ted Kennedy.
But now a friend he has known even longer stands in the way.
“Joe’s no different from a lot of other Senators who hold similar views,” said Senator Dodd.
But Sen. Joe Lieberman is different because he potentially holds vote number 60; the magic number in the U.S. Senate for passage of anything.
And as he said again on the Fox News Channel, this past weekend, he will join with the Republicans to stop the public option because he doesn’t think it’s necessary and would further deepen the recession.
Sen. Dodd strongly disagrees and says his friend is just wrong on this.
“Increasing the number of choices people have, particularly in the area of insurance, will have the greatest downward impact on rising costs; people could actually shop for policies,” said Sen. Dodd.
Sen. Lieberman revealed that he, and others in the Senate, believe that can be done without the public option.
“There’s a lot in these health care reform bills that really will encourage more competition and that will further regulate the insurance companies,” said Sen. Lieberman.
In the House, this weekend, Speaker Nancy Pelosi had to omit public financing for abortions in order to get the votes she needed for passage.
Sen. Lieberman has strongly indicated that increased regulation on the insurance industry, without the public option, would likely get his vote and stop a potential filibuster.
“Let’s try that and give it a few years to see whether it works before we add another business to government control,” said Sen. Lieberman.
But Sen. Dodd argued we can’t wait.
“You saw what happened here in our state of Connecticut – a 30-percent increase was sought by ‘Anthem.’ [They] settled on a 20-percent increase. We’re watching health care premiums rise five times faster than wages,” said Sen. Dodd.
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How can you believe them or trust them?
I Would rather trust Sen. Joe Lieberman...
GET RID OF DODD.
I think everyone should get a calculator for Christmass,they come in solar power so there is no excuse my calculator broke.
~Peace Glenna~
"" Sen. Lieberman has strongly indicated that increased regulation on the insurance industry, without the public option, would likely get his vote and stop a potential filibuster. ""
Finally someone with a common sense approach to this 'issue', who raises the spectre of solving the problem without creating another fiscally draining gov't handout program....
About friggin' time...
You go Joe !!!!!!
Why A Strong Public Option Is Essential - By jacksmith - Working Class
Robert Reich explains the pubic option: http://bit.ly/dDYSJ
Hollywood Supports The Public Option :-) http://bit.ly/3XLwPi
Beautiful HEATHER GRAHAM http://bit.ly/12sRYD :-)
It's not just because more than two thirds of the American people want a single payer health care system. And if they cant have a single payer system 77% of all Americans want a strong government-run public option on day one (86% of democrats, 75% of independents, and 72% republicans). Basically everyone.
It's not just because according to a new AARP POLL: 86 percent of seniors want universal healthcare security for All, including 93% of Democrats, 87% of Independents, and 78% of Republicans. With 79% of seniors supporting creating a new strong Government-run public option plan, available immediately. Including 89% of Democrats, 80% of Independents, and 61% of Republicans, STUNNING!!
It's not just because it will lower cost. Because a strong public option will dramatically lower cost for everyone. And dramatically improved the quality of care everyone receives in America and around the World. Rich, middle class, and poor a like.
It's not just because it will save trillions of dollars and prevent the needless deaths of millions more of YOU, caused by a rush to profit by the DISGRACEFUL, GREED DRIVEN, PRIVATE FOR PROFIT MEDICAL INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX!
It's not just because every expert in every field, including economist, and Nobel laureates all agree that free market based healthcare systems don't work. Never have and never will. The US has the only truly free market based healthcare system in the World. And as you all know now, IT IS A DISASTER!
It's not just because providing or denying medically necessary care for profit motivations is wrong. Because it is WRONG! It's professionally, ethically, and morally REPUGNANT!, Animalistic, VILE and EVIL.
THE REASON THE PUBLIC OPTION IS ESSENTIAL:
The public option is ESSENTIAL because over 200 million of you are trapped in the forest of the wolves. Which is the forest of the DISGRACEFUL, GREED DRIVEN, PRIVATE FOR PROFIT MEDICAL INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX! With no way out except through needless inhumane suffering, and DEATH. While the wolves tear at your flesh, and rip you limb from lib. Then feast on your lifeless bodies like a dead carcase for transplant parts.
At the most vulnerable times of your lives (when you were sick and hurting), millions of you have had to fight and loose cruel, but heroic battles. Fighting against the big guns of the DISGRACEFUL, GREED DRIVEN, PRIVATE FOR PROFIT MEDICAL INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX! in the forest of the wolves. All because you have no place else to go. You have no other CHOICE!
But the PUBLIC OPTION will give you someplace safe to go. And it will give us someplace safe to take you. The public option will be your refugium (your refuge). Where the wolves cannot get at you when your down, hurting, and vulnerable. Where everyone who needs it can find rest, security, comfort and the care they need. Protected by the BIG GUNS of We The People Of The United States. THE MOST POWERFUL PEOPLE AND COUNTRY ON EARTH.
This is why it is so critical that we do not lead another 50 million vulnerable, uninsured Americans into the forest of the wolves, without the protections of a Strong Government-run MEDICARE like public option. We The People Of The United States MUST NOT LET THAT HAPPEN to any more of our fellow Americans. If healthcare reform does not contain a strong MEDICARE like public option on day one. YOU MUST! KILL IT. Or you will do far more harm than good. And millions more will die needlessly. Rich, middle class, and poor a like.
To those who would continue to obstruct good and true healthcare reform for the American people, and who seek to trap millions more vulnerable Americans in the forest of the wolves. We will continue to fight you. We are prepared to wage all out war against you, and will eagerly DESTROY! you. Time...is...UP! YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED! No Co-op's! No Triggers! NO INDIVIDUAL MANDATES! without a Strong MEDICARE like public option on day one.
Healthcare reform can be the GREATEST! Accomplishment of our time and century. A time when future generations may say of us, that we were all, AMERICAS GREATEST GENERATIONS.
BUT WE MUST ACT!
I therefore call on all my fellow Americans and the peoples of the World. To join us in this fight so that we may finish becoming the better America that we aspire to be for everyone.
SPREAD THE WORD!
I have been privileged to be witness as many of you fought, and struggled to take your first breath, and your last breath on this earth. Rich, middle class, and poor a like. Life is precious.
Whatever the cost. WE! MUST SUCCEED.
God Bless You My Fellow Human Beings
jacksmith - Working Class
ATTENTION!! Congress Has The Votes Needed To Pass A Public Option - TODAY http://bit.ly/TCq7O
Things You Can Do To Help NOW! http://www.everydaycitizen.com/2009/09/tired_of_watching_people_die_n.html
A majority of voters would rather have a Democrats only bill with a Public Option. Than a bipartisan bill without a Public Option.
A state based insurance plan is NOT!! a Public Option. Nor is it a Strong, National, Medicare like Public Option.
No Triggers! http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jason-rosenbaum/a-trigger-for-the-public_b_277910.html
Triggers http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-sirota/weve-seen-these-triggers_b_283583.html
Krugman on heathcare (http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/07/25/why-markets-cant-cure-healthcare/)
Senator Bernie Sanders on healthcare (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSM8t_cLZgk&feature=player_embedded)
John Garamendi on the Public Option and the Grassroots: http://bit.ly/TJMty
Howard Dean on the Public Option http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SKfW2dUnow&feature=player_embedded
We're Number 37! in quality of health care http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVgOl3cETb4&feature=player_embedded
Twitter search (#welovethenhs #NHS #hc09 #hcr #healthcar #obama #p2 #topprog #) Check it out.
A good example of congress incompetence is the recently passed law on credit card companies that stops them from jacking interest rates for risky people. Now my interest rate has gone up and if I don't use my card for a year they will charge me a fee for not using it. Great job 2008 elected congress (Dodd)!
Dodd is a whole other story, but for as corrupt as he is, at least I know how he will vote.
"Dump Dodd"
"WASHINGTON — Lieberman devoted a conference call with reporters to an issue that his main rival in the U.S. Senate race, Democratic nominee Ned Lamont, has highlighted in recent days.
“I have long supported the goal of universal health care,” Lieberman told reporters. “Ned Lamont can talk about it. I’ve been doing something about it all the time I’ve been here.”"
Dodd..........
It is now official... you are ALL corrupt morons:
The U.S. Post Service was established in 1775. You have had 234
years to get it right and it is broke.
Social Security was established in 1935. You have had 74 years to
get it right and it is broke.
Fannie Mae was established in 1938. You have had 71 years to get
it right and it is broke.
War on Poverty started in 1964. You have had 45 years to get it
right; $1 trillion of our money is confiscated each year and
transferred to "the poor" and they only want more.
Medicare and Medicaid were established in 1965. You have had 44
years to get it right and they are broke.
Freddie Mac was established in 1970. You have had 39 years to
get it right and it is broke.
The Department of Energy was created in 1977 to lessen our
dependence on foreign oil. It has ballooned to 16,000 employees with a
budget of $24 billion a year and we import more oil than ever before.
You had 32 years to get it right and it is an abysmal failure.
You have FAILED in every "government service" you have shoved down our
throats while overspending our tax dollars
AND YOU WANT AMERICANS TO BELIEVE YOU CAN BE TRUSTED WITH
A GOVERNMENT-RUN HEALTH CARE SYSTEM??
1. Everyone must buy insurance. Just like for your car.
2. No pre-existing condition crap.
3. Under all circumstances, cap the amount of money that the government will put in. Period.
Joe R.
P.S. Jacksmith, are you even from CT. I bet not.
Dump Dodd!
There are Constitutional questions that need to be properly answered and debated.
If the goal is to cut health care cost and insure everyone, why does it require a 2000 page bill loaded with unrelated items to do that? I would think a better bill could be proposed to specifically address those issues.
People pretend like their current status will remain. That they will not have, in 10 years, what they have now. People decry those who honestly accept a coming healthcare crisis with broad economic implications stemming from new veterans of 2 wars, baby boomers, and immigration. The banter is numbing, and insulting to the vast majority of uninsured... meaning those who are in working families.
I made a $77 mistake and my bank punished me!
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